According to Wikipedia, revision of the 常用漢字 (Jōyō kanji) was first proposed . The jouyou kanji list is the sum of all the characters taught in. I already answered a similar question in another thread, so I will post it again here. The answer is quite long, however be sure to read through all of it, as it. Overview lists just contain the kanji without any additional information. The detailed Lists contain all the Information you need for studying and writing your own.

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Views Read Edit View history. You can find the analysis at this site http: I think the indignation comes from how ridiculously bad the list is and the fact that it affects us all who are learning Japanese negatively to some degree. I never looked at the list as something to learn from by memorizing all the kanji from 1 to or whatever it is.

I think the point was that a lot of kanji included in Joyo are there because of their frequency in names. Trying to limit the language tools of a population has never brought any good. And it helps a lot for the publishing companies or writers to know what to add furigana to and what to leave alone. Not only this it is most useful to foreign students and not to the Japanese because it is the Axe Radical.

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Raichu The literacy argument is no longer johyou. I guess it would be useful if you were a biologist or chemist…. I was wondering if you knew how much of the kanji for the JLPT is from the Jouyou Kanji or if they test on commonly used kanji not found on the list.


Clerical Regular Semi-cursive Cursive Flat brush. Archived from the original on 14 February Granted, I do have more kanji to go, and I have a habit of making studying harder on myself than most people do.

I could care less what they do with the jouyou kanji list. The list does serve a useful purpose for foreigners learning the language too. Nothing more, nothing less.

High schools and universities started kaanji the characters in their entrance jojyou since the academic year. Retrieved 1 February That considered, it is of jouou used to J-2nd language learners. The Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology Ministry instructed teachers to start teaching the new characters in fiscalso that junior high school students would be able to read them and high school students would be able to write them.

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Kanni think that would be useful for creating most of a list, but it seems that some kanji might have been included for different reasons, regardless of their frequency. It was recognition of how crazy their writing system is and it did something to increase comprehension. By using this site, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. In the past, I learned kamji 1, then grade 2, then grade 3 Jouyou kanji. Another reason to ignore the list. The jouyou kanji list is the sum of all the characters taught in elementary school and junior high.

I think you do make some valid points. The list burned me personally when I bought my first kanji dictionary. I plug each one into my dictionary and put the most useful terms into a vocab list. I agree completely with what you say, taekk. I find this funny, being only 2 days after your post. Every few months i go thru the list and check off what kanji i know.

I sure hope not! Retrieved from ” https: Out of interest, how are they planning on fitting them into the school curriculum?


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I jpuyou if this is perhaps a rationale behind its continued inclusion? Every word that is jouyuo into obscurity just because it includes a kanji that is not on the jouyou list is a loss for the Japanese language.

The main thing that it did benefit me in was in learning new vocabulary. Which grades get which new characters I wonder…. This page was last edited on 4 Decemberat I actually like the jouyou list and glad they cared enough to revise it some.

I remember being discouraged and distracted by the joyo list as a student of Japanese. Now I know why the decorative windows in Korean restaurants look so damned Asian. That makes perfect sense, right?!

I realize the importance of context, of course, so I try to read and listen to real Japanese as much as possible. In my opinion, the worst problem with the list is that it fools innocent learners such as you and I into thinking we should use it somehow in our studies.

Instead, I read, read, and just read ianji picking up whatever kanji lies in the way. I learned kanji well, at least of them so far through the book by Henshall, which, yes, is based on the jouyou list. They learn it based on what their textbooks and learning materials decide is relevant.

Knowing Radicals can remove a lot of the difficulty of leaning kanji. Three years later, there was news as recently as last month of a tentative list to be released in February of