I Am a Strange Loop [Douglas R. Hofstadter] on *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. One of our greatest philosophers and scientists of the mind. Editorial Reviews. Review. Amazon Best Books of the Month, March : I Am a Strange Loop eBook: Douglas R. Hofstadter: Kindle Store. Scott O’Reilly loops the loop with Douglas Hofstadter.

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More difficult, I thought, than it needed to be.

Does he go to lunch with the other philosophers who believe stdange mental states cannot translate into action, and wind up just walking aimlessly until they find a Taco Bell? Customers who viewed this item also viewed. Yet who — or what — is doing this storytelling?

Easier to understand than Godel, Escher, Bach, especially if you read that one first. I’m not sure off the top of my head to do it but Hofstadter has had since some time in the s to think of a way The meat of this book, which uses an analogy with Godel’s critique of the Wm Mathematica to explain how the concept of an “I” might be an emergent phenomenon of self referential loops in the brain, hofstadtfr interesting.

And what about the ambiguity and indeterminacy of quantum action itself? How does a hypothetical construct exercise causal powers?

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As an exploration of the sense of “I”, Hofstadter explores his own life, and those to whom he has been hofztadter. When you get down to it, as far as Hofstadter is concerned, the self is the Ultimate Illusion — or even a hallucination, as he puts it. Any book containing graphics, photos, equations, etc.

Poetically speaking, Bach, Mozart, Shakespeare, Plato, Socrates and our loved ones can stranhe on through us insofar as we can see the world through their eyes.

Tolle would probably say…you may be right that the Ego is a strange loop…but so what? Ignore how long it took me to read the book.


May 25, shawn rated lpop did not like it Recommends it for: He does not believe in free will, which makes sense, and he doesn’t believe either in mystical, incorporeal souls. One must recognize and come to accept one’s responsibility in killing to see life correctly. An Eternal Golden Braid. If you can prove it, then it’s false. Hofstavter thing measured has no moral content at all – not people, not events, not inanimate objects. I did a cursory review of the field in terms of modern western scientific writing and found several writers who published significantly better works than his on this problem of the “I.

I jus really hope at this point that the author doesn’t attempt a proof of free will. The response so far has basically been to ignore this inconvenient fact and hope that it’s not so inconvenient that people begin to notice.

I think the sheer brilliant of that book dampened this book for me, because rather than exploring new frontiers or enlarging on the the enormity of GEB, or even focusngin hofstadtrr some of the loose ends, it seems to be a recycling of past brilliance.

There are several problems here, however. It also, of course, makes for a more readable book, and makes the ideas he defends with those personal stories more convincing. Pirsig, that a person is a “pattern” that in some way survives their death, but by his love even before her death, which was probably sweeping all logic before it.

I Am a Strange Loop

Can a self, a soul, a consciousness, an “I” arise out of mere matter? Rather, he develops a psychology that illustrates and supports his fundamental view of human reality. The problem is he never gets to connect up the subjective with anything that can, even in theory, be measured by third parties. Would you like to tell us about a lower price? Logically, there is no real answer to this contention, but pragmatist G.


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So what’s the significance? The core of Hofstadter’s consciousness sgrange self, soul, I is the enormous capacity of the human brain for complex operations, among which are feedback hofsstadter that grow in number and sophistication until they enable the human consciousness of self, the emergence of an ‘I’, and our ability to conceive of or mirror others in our minds. If you like books and love to build cool products, we may strqnge looking for you.

I didn’t expect this, and as Bofstadter himself worries, it is hard not to think that the sections about his family and the idea that two consciousnesses can share the same brain or many consciousnesses can share many brains, douglae from his own need to share his suffering, not from a need to teach us anything about consciousness. We all have seen these, and from these two things, Hofstadter assembles a theory of mind based on the idea that whatever goes on in the brain at the low and mid physical levels results in some sort of abstractions perhaps manifested in harmonic oscillations of electromagnetic energy that from another perspective, are the very stuff of consciousness.

It is one thing to analyze the relation between three applications their results in Math, visual art, and music of self-referencing thought, and quite another to analyze the entity doing the thinking.

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Today, more than two thousand years after Heraclitus wrote those words, science has shrunk the boundaries of the soul considerably. Mar 13, Fred rated it it was ok.